With xpadder, when you turn off one controller the other controller goes to the mapping for controller #1 (even if it was #2 when both controllers were on). If I leave the emulator and go back in with joy1 off, joy2 will become joy1 even if I turn the other controller on after starting MAME. While still inside of the emulator, if I turn joy1 off joy2 stays as joy2. But not while still in the emulator (tested in MAME). Now if I turn off joy1 (leaving joy2 on), joy2 becomes joy1. This does not matter if I turn controller A on first or controller B, first one turned on becomes joy1. If I turn both controllers on, the first one turned on is detected as joy1, and second turned on as joy2. I "think" I get what you are asking with the ID.
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